Let's say that someone you know is driving WAY too fast on the freeway (obviously, you personally are much too smart to do anything so foolhardy and dangerous!). Ultimately, your friend's parents will find out he's driving at 80 mph no matter what. He can't escape getting busted! BUT, from the options below, choose which POV/frame of reference he would want his parents to have so his velocity seems the lowest relative to them.
Choose one by voting in the poll to the right, and add a comment to explain WHY your choice is best (AND why the other choices are less ideal)...
The parents driving 60 mph toward him (on the other side of the freeway, of course).
The parents driving 60 mph in the same direction on his side of the freeway.
The parents sitting along the freeway watching him drive by. (External)

I feel like he would notice that he is going way to fast if his parents were driving towards him because when you are driving next to someone then they would clearly notice that you passed them and were going to fast. But, if you were to be driving towards them then both of you would be going at a relatively fast speed and wouldn't be able to tell who was going faster.
ReplyDeleteI think that moving towards them on opposite sides of the freeway would have his velocity seem the lowet relative to them because it would just look like he is moving the same speed as the traffic around him. Also, it would look like his parents would be driving away from him and his parents would just think that they are the ones driving faster. If his parents were on the side of the freeway watching him drive by at 80 mph, they would obviously notice his speed. His parents driving in the same direction as him would be less ideal as well because since that he is going at 80 mph, and his parents are going at 60 mph, they would notice that he is passing them by a lot.
ReplyDeleteBy driving in the opposite direction, his parents can not really identify if he is driving really fast because they are moving as well (but in a different direction). If they drive side by side, the parents would compare their own speed to their child's speed. If the parents are only observing his car by standing somewhere, the car would look as if it is speeding because the parents are not moving at all.
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ReplyDeleteMoving towards them would make the car appear as though it is going slower because of the concept of relative motion. Because the other car is traveling at 60 mph, then the concept of relative motion would make the 80 mph car appear to be going not as fast; however, this is only because of the 1st/2nd person frame of reference. Also, traveling on the same side of the road in the same direction would be bad because the parents would notice that their child is passing them and as their son gradually appears to be moving farther and farther away they would realize he is traveling very fast. Also, if they were sitting on the side of the freeway the parents would observe a 3rd person frame of reference resulting I'm their child's excessive speed being obvious and incapable of denying. Provided the frame of references and different situations, traveling towards the parents would be the most logical way of concealing the speed because the parents would not realize how fast their child is driving in comparison to them.
ReplyDeleteIf the parents were driving toward their son on the opposite side of the freeway it would seem as if the child is driving slower. Because the parents are traveling at 60 mph, due to relative motion it does not seem as if their son is driving at 80 mph. If the parents were traveling at 60 mph on the same side as their son, they would notice that the distance between their car and his is increasing by 20 mph. If the parents were watching their son drive by, the external view, they would realize how fast he is going.
ReplyDeleteIf the parents were driving on the other side of the road, the distance between them would be covered faster than if they were both driving on the same of the road. If they were on the same side of the road, the parents would see their child pull away from them, which would lead them to conclude that he is speeding. Going opposite each other would be a different view because they are traveling 60 mph, as well as their child traveling 80 mph, which appears to be slower than what it really is, closing the gap quicker, which does not allow a lot of time for the parents to accurately guess how fast their child is going.
ReplyDeleteThe way that make it seem like the kid speeding at 80 mph is going the "slowest" would be if both the kid and his parents were driving in the same direction. If the parents were going 60 mph, it would seem like the kid would be gradually speeding up. Also, if the kid and parents were going in the same direction, it would seem like they would speed at each other incredibly fast. Also if the parents were to watch from the side it would look like he's going 80.
ReplyDeleteThem standing still would make the car look like it was going 80mph. Them traveling towards him would make it seem like he was going 140mph because of the additive speed and motion. If they were going 60mph in the same direction that he was going 80mph in it would seem like he was only going 20mph relative to them.
ReplyDeleteIf the parents were driving on the other side of the freeway coming towards him at 60mph, then it would appear that he was driving way faster than 80mph because both cars would be coming towards each other at the same time at 140mph. If they were standing on the side of the freeway, they could clearly see that he was going over the speed limit at 80mph because they wouldn't be moving at all. Therefore, the second option is best.
ReplyDeleteAn external view or the parents sitting along the freeway watching their son drive by would have his velocity seem to be the lowest relative to them. If both cars were going the opposite direction, the parents would feel like they are going zero miles per hour, and their son coming toward them is going 140mph (80mph+60mph=140mph, you add them because both cars are covering the same distance). Whereas, watching their son drive by would only seem as if he is going 80 mph. If both cars were driving in the same direction, the son would pass by their parents (which is not good!) since he is going 20mph faster than his parent’s car, which is going 60mph (80mph-60mph=20mph).
ReplyDeleteIf his parents are sitting along the freeway watching him drive by he will always look fast weather he is going the speed limit or above, so that is the best place for them to see him driving because they can't really tell how past he is going, so he won't look as fast.
ReplyDeleteDriving on the other side of the freeway would make it seem that the kid is going slower because he will soon appear to be going backwards to his parents frame of reference. If his parents were on the same side as him they would be able to compare the speed much easier than being opposite from each other. Driving the opposite direction just allows each car to go further away from each other and allows less time for his parents to compare the speed.
ReplyDeleteHe would want them to see him driving past them on the same side of the road where he is only going 20 mph faster than them. If they passed him on the other side their combined speed would be 140 mph so it would look like he was going much fast. If they were watching him from the side of the freeway standing still, he would pass them at 80 mph so he would look as if he was going very fast.
ReplyDeleteIf she was driving towards the parents while she was going 80mph and her parents were going 60 mph, it would seem as if the child was going 140 mph. Since they are getting closer to one another (and the space between them is getting smaller) they would pass in a less amount of time; therefore, it would seem as if the opposite car is going faster than it really is. IF they were all driving in the same direction the difference in speed will be what the parents see relative to themselves; they will see her going 20mph. Since the distance between them is gradually getting larger, they won’t be able to tell as easily. Lastly, the worst case scenario is if the parents were standing next to the free way in 3rd point of view. As a third person view, they would fully see the car going 80 mph and faster relative to the other cars.
ReplyDeleteTo make it less noticeable to the parents, they would have to be driving in the opposite direction. If the boy and the parents were driving in the same direction, his speed would be more apparent because he would be going 20mph faster than they are. If they were standing still watching him drive, his speed would be even more obvious. Therefore, if he does not want to get in trouble, the best way is to drive in the opposite direction from his parents.
ReplyDeleteIf the parents were driving on the opposite side of the freeway toward their son they would not be aware of his violation of speed. It would appear to them that his car was moving slower than it's actuality because since they were driving at 60 mph his speed of 80 mph would go unnoticed. If the parents were driving on the same side at 60 mph they would clearly notice the distance between both cars because their son's car is gradually increasing by 20 mph. If the parents were standing on the side watching the son's car drift by at 80 mph, they would undoubtably realize that he was going too fast.
ReplyDeleteIf he was driving towards the parents on different sides of the freeway the parents would not realize that their son is driving above the speed limit. As a result of driving 60 mph in the opposite direction the window that the parents could possibly see the boy(if they do look at all) would be significantly smaller when compared to being on the side of the freeway watching. Additionally, if the parents were traveling in the same direction they would definitely realize that their son is speeding because they would see him pass them at a much faster velocty.
ReplyDeleteHe wants them to be driving in the same direction as him, because then it will only appear to them that he is going 20mph. If they were coming at him at 60mph, it would seem that he were moving at 140mph. If they were standing, watching it would look to them as if he were going 80mph, which he is.
ReplyDeleteDriving towards the parents would make velocity seem lowest compared to the other options. Driving towards them would make his fast speed seem least noticeable. Due to relative motion, if they were driving on the same side of the road, the 80 mph of the parents son would be much more visible, because they wouldn't be that close to each other. When driving towards each other it is more difficult to tell how fast the son is really going.
ReplyDeleteDriving in the same direction as his parents would look the slowest in his parents point of view. This is true because when driving in the same direction, both him and his parents are traveling at similar although not equal speeds in the same direction, so for example, if his parents were going 70 miles an hour in their perspective it would look like their son is only traveling faster at 10 miles an hour. If you were on the side of the freeway it would look as it actually is, 80 miles an hour. Lastly, if you were driving towards each other the parents point of view appears the combined speed of both cars combined, in my example it would appear he is going around 150 mph.
ReplyDeleteI feel that if the parents are driving towards their son his speed (velocity) would seem the lowest relative to their speed. This is because if they are driving in opposite directions, his parents wouldn't be able to tell he is driving 80 mph because they are driving as well, but at 60 mph. However, if his parents were driving in the same direction, they would notice their son was driving 20 mph faster because the space in between them would be increasing because the parents are going 20 mph slower. And if the parents were sitting along the freeway watching their son drive by, they would defiantly notice he was driving way too fast because they would be watching the whole situation take place (the external view).
ReplyDeleteIf the parents see their child driving in the opposite direction as them, his/her speed will seem the lowest relative to them out of the other options. This will appear as so because when one is driving in the same direction, you could compare your various speeds, and in this context, the parents would be able to see the 20 mph difference between their and their child's speed. If you were to look at it from a neutral (from off to the side) point of view, one could see the child's speed is surpassing the rest of the flow of traffic. The first option would be right at the end of the day because you wouldn't be able to see that the child's car is going faster but rather just blending with the rest of the flow of traffic.
ReplyDeleteDriving the opposite direction of his parents will be the son's best option. When driving the same direction of his parents, the speeds can be easily compared thus making getting caught much easier as they see the son pass them at 20 mph faster. Also, watching from an external view, his parents will see the car go by at 80 mph because they are not moving. However when the parents and son pass each other on opposite sides, there is no way to compare speeds.
ReplyDeleteI think that his parents would most likely notice his speed if they were standing still beside the freeway because obviously them at a standstill watching the car do 80 mph they would observe his speed, if they were driving beside him his speed would be less drastic but they would still notice he was speeding because he would speed past them for example but if they drove at eachother from opposite directions they would pass eachother extremely quickly no matter what so it would be harder to judge his speed.
ReplyDeleteIf you are going toward another car, they cannot judge your speed just by looking. If you are going the same direction, your parents will be able to see that you are going faster than they are. If you are driving while your parents watch on foot, then they will be able to tell you are speeding. Therefore the only logical choice is to be going toward the parents
ReplyDeleteIf the parents were driving toward him, on the opposite side of the free way, would the kid appear to be driving slower. If his parents were watching him drive by from the side-line they would know he was driving at 80 mph because they have that external point of view where they can see whats really happening. If the parents were driving on the same side of the free way with him (going in the same direction) they would know he was driving fast because they would see him zoom by them and going further away from them. Therefore, he would look like he was going the slowest from the parents point of view driving in the opposite direction because they couldn't tell his speed by him going toward them.
ReplyDeleteThe child's best option would be to have his parents driving towards him on the other side of the freeway. This would make him seem like he is not going as fast because they are unable to gauge his speed while driving in the opposite direction. If his parents were to be driving on the same side of the freeway or on the side, they would be able to see him drive by very quickly.
ReplyDeleteIf the kid was driving in the same direction as his parents, it would be much less noticeable that he was going at such a high speed because, to his parents, he would only be going 20 mph and gradually increasing the distance between them, since they are going at 60 mph. Whereas if he was driving at the same speed on the opposite side of the freeway, him and his parents would have a combined total of 140 mph since they are coming at each other with speeds of 60 and 80 mph. Lastly, the external view wouldn't be the best choice either because it would be easy to tell that he was going 80 mph, his actual speed, and it would seem like he was going very fast.
ReplyDeleteThe son would want his parents driving in the same direction as him on the freeway. This is because while driving one in front of the other, the parents can notice that their son is only traveling 20 mph in comparison to them. On the other hand, watching him drive by from a third person frame of reference would be the worst case because they can observe his speed at the normal rate of 80 mph. And also, driving in the opposite direction would make him seem like he is driving faster than normal
ReplyDeleteI think the best option is for the parents to be driving 60 miles towards him on the other side of the freeway. This is because when passing their child, the window of opportunity for the parents to gauge their child's speed would be very short
ReplyDeleteThe best option is for the parents to be driving 60 mph in the same direction, because then they are both in motion, and he is only going 20 mph more than them. If they were just watching externally, It would look insanely fast because they would be still while he would be flying by at 80 mph. Also going towards him would seem fast because they would be heading towards each other at 140 mph.
ReplyDeleteThe best option would be if the parents drove on the same side as the kid. From the parents point of view ( driving on the same side of the road ) the some is only going 20 mph. If the parents were driving on the other side of the road it would seem like the son is zipping by. And from a third point of view, the parents will see the sons actual speed.
ReplyDeleteIf the parents are driving in the same direction as my friend, the friend will only appear to be going around 20mph compared to the parents and they would really be able to tell that much, as opposed to the 60mph+80mph=140mph with them going towards each other.
ReplyDeleteI think his velocity would seem lowest relative to his parents when the parents driving 60 mph in the same direction on his side of the freeway.I think it would be less noticeable because his parents would already be going 60 mph so an extra 20 mph wouldn't make that much of a difference. But if your driving in opposite directions, the total speed would be 140 mph, making everything look as if it's going faster. Lastly, the external view wouldn't be the best option because the parents would see that the son is driving at 80 mph
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, the sons best choice to have the parents driving towards him in the opposite direction at 60 mph because then the parents don't realize how fast he is actually going. The son would only be going 20 mph more than the parents, so since the would be driving past eachother so fast they would not be able to notcie the difference in speeds. If the parents were next to the son they would be able to tell that the son is going significantly faster than them. If the parents were watching from an external view, it would be even more obvious that the son was speeding because he would just zoom past them. Although none of these point of views are safe or smart, the first one would be the most advantageous to the son.
ReplyDeleteIf they are driving towards eachother, his parents won't be able to tell how fast he is driving since they are also moving. But, on the contrary, the child's car from an outsiders perspective of someone who was standing on the side of the street not inside a car would show the car moving extrememly fast because that person is not moving, so they can compare their speed of 0mph to the speed of 80mph and clearly see that he is moving that quickly. Lastly, if his parents were driving next to him, the could compare his speed to theirs and it would look like they were going the same speed or relativley the same speed since they are traveling in the same direction.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion if he's driving on the opposite side of the road going the opposite direction as his parents then it would be more difficult for them to see his true speed. If he is driving next to them they can more easily judge his speed by comparing theres with his. If the parents are simply standing on the side of the road it would be a lot easier for them to see there actual speed because they would have the external view of the situation.
ReplyDeleteDriving in the same direction because if he drives past his parents their relative point of view would be their speed subtracted from his speed instead of having the full 80 mph
ReplyDeleteYou will appear to be going the slowest speed to your parents by traveling in the same direction as them on the freeway. When they are going towards each other, he would appear to be going both of their speeds added together (140mph); however, when they are side by side they only notice a 20 mph difference.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion my parents would be less mad if they where going the same direction. I would only be going 20 mph faster then them relative to there speed. If my parents were driving at the opposite direction i would seem to be driving at 140 mph relative to there location. In conclusion, i would rather pass my parents going the same direction.
ReplyDeleteI think that if the kid and his parent were driving in the same direction he would appear to not be going as fast as the other options. If he is going 80 and his parents 60, their POV would be of their kids speed would be 80mph subtracted from their 60mph so only 20mph. But if the parents were standing next to the freeway his 80mph would seem much faster as well as going 80mph in the opposite direction, because ultimately it would appear that the kid is going 140mph. So his velocity would appear to be the lowest relative to his parents when driving in the same direction as them.
ReplyDeleteHe would want his parents to be driving the same direction. If his parents were going 60 mph, it would seem to them that he was only pulling away at 20 mph.
ReplyDeleteThe best scenario would be if his parents were next to him. If he was going 80 mph and his parents were going 60 mph, to his parents it would only look like the he is going 20 mph.
ReplyDeleteThe child would want his parents to be driving towards him at 60 mph. It would look less fast because it only looks like the kid is going 20 mph faster instead of a full 80 mph. If they were outside the car, the car would pass them by so fast that the parents would realize he is speeding. Similarly, if the parents were drivng towards him, it would look a lot faster if a car flew by him.
ReplyDeleteI think the best option is the parents driving in the same direction; since they are going 60 mph and he is going 80 mph, the parents will only think he is slowly pulling away from them at 20 mph (80-60). If he is driving 80 mph towards the parents as they went 60 mph, it would seem as though he is going 140 mph since both cars are covering the same distance. (80+60=140). Watching him externally, his parents would witness him speeding at 80 mph.
ReplyDeleteTo make it seem like he is going the slowest relative to his parents who have the 1st person perspective, he would want to be driving in the same direction as them because as the parents are going 60mph and he is going 80mph, they only observe a difference in speed of 20mph. In contrast, if he was going in the opposite direction, you would add their speeds together and it would appear to the parents as if he was flying past them at 140mph. Lastly, if the parents were sitting along the freeway watching the kid from an external perspective, it would be evident that he is driving 80mph. Therefore, in order to make it seem like the kid is driving slowest, he would want to be driving in the same direction as his parents.
ReplyDeleteThe best scenario would be if he was driving in the same direction as them. Because he would only by going 20mph faster than his parents so they would notice he is going 20 mph faster than them. If he was going in the opposite direction it would add both of there speeds together making it so it would look like he is going 140 mph and speeding way too quickly. If his parents were sitting and watching they could see he was going 80mph, because they have no car making the speed skewed. So furthermore if they were going the same direction it would make it seem like the kid is going the slowest.
ReplyDeleteHe would want to be driving in the same direction as his parents to make it seem like he is going the slowest relative to his parents because while his parents are going 60 mph, and he is going 80 mph, the difference of speed is only 20 mph. Also, one may think it would seem like he is going to slowest if he drove towards them; however, that would make it seem to his parents that he is going 140 mph. Finally, if his parents were standing by the freeway watching him drive by, they would know the “truth” that he is actually driving 80 mph. Thus, driving towards his parents would make his parents think he is going the slowest.
ReplyDeleteFrom the three options the second would be best. Moreover, since his parents are going 60 and he is going 80 in the same direction, then the difference would only seem like 20 mph. If he's going in the opposite direction then his parents then if would seem as if he is going 140 mph, which would lead to far worse perspective on to the situation. Concluding if his parents were stationary and saw him, then it would seem as if he is traveling a clear 80 mph. So, overall if he is in the same direction with his parents, he would provide a much slower velocity in their view.
ReplyDeleteDriving in the same direction as somebody else would make it seem like you are only going 20mph faster than the other cars. Driving in opposite directions would make it seem like you are going 140 mph. And lastly if you were just standing on the freeway you would see it for what it was; going 80mph.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the best option is the option regarding the parents driving in the same direction. Due to the fact that they are going 60 mph and he is going 80 mph, it will appear to the parents that he is pulling away from them at 20 mph. Driving 80 mph towards his parents as they drive 60 mph would cause it to appear that he is going 140 mph because the same amount of space would be covered. From our perspective, however, it would seem that he was driving at 80 mph.
ReplyDeletei think that the best option would be if the parents were going opposite the child because if they were going the same direction then the parents would notice the kid pass them quickly and if the parents were still they would obviously see how fast he was going but if hey were coming at him going 60 and the child was going 80 they really couldnt tell how much faster he was going because they are passing him too
ReplyDeleteDriving in the opposite direction, the parents would know that their son is going 20mph faster than them. If they knew their physics, they would know that a car coming towards them looks fast but actually is going as fast (well in this case, faster) than them. If the kid was driving on the same side, then they would see that he is going faster when he passes them. If they were to stand outside, the would see that he is going way too fast.
ReplyDeleteIf they were facing each other on the opposite sides of the freeway they would be less likely to notice how much faster he is going than them. If he was in front of them, they would notice how much faster he is going than them based on the distance relative to their own car. If they were sitting by and watching him, he would appear faster because they would perceive him as going faster since they are not moving.
ReplyDeleteIf they're were both on the freeway driving in the same direction, and you are going 80 mph and your parents are only going 60 mph, this would be e most ideal situation for your parents to catch you speeding. It's all about frame of reference and point of view! Your are only going 20 mob FASTER than m parents, so they only see me speeding past at 20 mph....which is SO SLOW and LAME!!! Woohoo....
ReplyDeleteIf both you and your parents were on the same freeway, you'd want to be driving in the same direction as them because you wouldn't appear to be going as fast as you actually are, only 20 mph more than your parent's speed. You would look like you're going EXTREMELY fast if you and your parents were approaching from opposite directions because your speed would combine (140 mph) as you drove towards each other. Also, if your parent were to be sitting on the side of the freeway as you drove past you would appear to be going quite quickly because they aren't moving at all.
ReplyDeleteIf you were driving over the speed limit, one would want to be driving in the same direction as their parents, because they would be passing them, at what appears to be, a much slower speed. If you were driving past your parents who were standing along side the freeway, it would appear to them that you are speeding extremely fast, past them, while in the other case, if you passed them, even if you weren't going at 80 mph, it would look as if you were going well over 100 miles an hour, and in this case, 140 mph.
ReplyDeleteIf the parents were on the same side of the freeway going the same direction it would be better because it'd seem like he were going 20 mph faster making him seem like he's going slower than he actually is. Also in the same side the parents would (hopefully) be focused on the road and not notice.
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